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Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:55 pm

Version of game: 1.12 (update on Play Store: January 22, 2015) - it is always possible that mechanics will change when game will be updated further.

If blacksmith wants to get another highscore and have his smithy open for more days than ever before, he needs to be prepared. Gathering money and items in storage is essential and this is the moment when everyone wonders, what is the best way to get coins and items.

Please read my posts and maybe you can increase your earning efficiency!

I will be grateful for all suggestions and spotted mistakes, so feel free to comment.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:00 pm

Selling weapons.

Enchantment is important! Whatever weapon you are making, make sure it have as many enchantment as it's possible to gather while combining ores for that weapon.
Base price for a weapon is equal to sum of three stats of a weapon. Values of attack, defense and speed combined gives price in coins. Every enchantment point gives one of the two: 1 bonus point to all three stats of a weapon, or 3 bonus points to one stat of that weapon.
Simply: every enchantment gathered when crafting a weapon is equal to 3 coins!
First of all choose a place, where this weapon (or weapons) will be on your forge when crafted. You need space to make enough ores and try not to block yourself from enchanted fields. Try to choose best possible material in given time limit. Best possible will be pricier than just enough for customer to accept.
How much time You have? What can you make before it's too late?
If it's 150 moves it's more than enough to make a weapon from silver with one golden gem (3*19+55 = 112 moves - see numbers below), but remember that you often have two or three customers counting moves at once!
I consider form as a single handle, blade, plate or gem, placing it near two pieces of ore is considered a move. So to make a filled form you need move to place it plus moves required to create two ores of particular type:
- bronze form = 3 moves
bronze ore = 1 move
- iron form = 7 moves
iron ore = 3 x bronze
- silver form = 19 moves
silver ore = 3 x iron = 9 x bronze
- gold form = 55 moves
gold ore = 3 x silver = 9 x iron = 27 x bronze
- crystal form = 163 moves
crystal ore = 3 x gold = 9 x silver = 27 x iron = 81 bronze
- netherium form = 487 moves
netherium ore = 3 x crystal = 9 x gold = 27 x silver = 81 iron = bronze 243

Those numbers are correct, when three conditions are met:
1. Only bronze ore is used to make forms. Any bigger ore used will decrease number of moves used.
(silver form from pistol = 1 move instead of 9)
2. Every non bronze ore is made from exactly three ores of lover level. For example if golden ore is made, by placing silver in the middle when there are already two silver pieces on left side, and two silver pieces on right side of that field, then the number of moves is increased by those needed to make additional silver.
3. Every form is filled with exactly two ores of particular type. Again if form is filled, by placing it in the middle when there are already two iron ores on top of it, and two iron ores right under, then the number of moves is increased by those needed to make additional iron.

When there is something different than bronze in your ore pistol, or simply there is no place for creating another level of ore manually on the forge and ore from storage is used, then first condition isn't met. Those are necessities, that sometimes cannot be avoided.
Second and third conditions can be used on purpose, to increase enchantment gathered, but only if you are certain, that there is enough time for that.

Try to plan weapons as big as you can, but leave yourself a margin. Don't plan all time you have, because simple mistake can cost you heart and reputation from that customer.

I hope, that this basic calculations and mechanics description will help managing your time with the game to make it worth more coins.
Good luck and great profits to all!
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:03 pm

Bets and challenges.

Always get bets that You can win. Don't miss them, it's easy money.

If you have chest full of weapons (6 spaces on 3rd skill level), do not promise, that forge will be empty at the end of a day.
If You bet that there will be no hot slots at the end of a day it's best to leave guard to the end of this day. He will wait patiently when forge until forge cool down and You can use time to make some golden ore for next day.
If you are asked to fill form with 8 ores, remember that it requires exactly 9 fields in a shape of big cross from the top to bottom, 5 fields high and 5 fields wide. You have to build this cross from one type of ore and form have to be put last in the center. Don't accept it if You don't have space for that.
The same with 6x combo. If You have place and time for that, try to do best weapons possible, it's hard to get rid of 6 weak weapons made from bronze.

If you are sure You can win the bet. Go for it. Put max amount of money on it.

If you are not sure. Don't take it at all! It's better to pass on it and focus on game than loose money or risk mistakes just to win bet.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:16 pm

Contracts

Remember that there are contracts to complete and there is prize in coins and experience points for that.
Maybe there are some particular weapon You have to make few times? You have only city guard left in line? Make this weapon for him! Other forms can be filled with silver or gold and put on the corners of a forge, will be usefull later. and city guard will gladly take silver, iron or even bronze weapon, but if making that weapon makes you closer to fulfill contract, this is obvious gain for You.
Prince wants another armor with three gems? Silver gem is enough. But maybe you have to make some golden gems to fulfill contract? Can you make it? If you have place, time and maybe resources, then go for it! This is gain for You.

If you have time and space when creating something for guard or exceptional customer, then go for it. Do another few things for contracts.
Don't overdo it though. Contract for staffs? Make 3 or 4, if you have time, but not 10, because you can loose if you can't get rid of them and they consume space.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:22 pm

Buying stuff.

If you need something right now, buy only as much as you need. Always try to buy everything that is discounted. Every item is more or less useful, so it won't be wasted money. Figure out your strategy and focus on most useful items that work for Your playstyle. Buy them whenewer you can.
Don't spend your last penny! It's good to have 1000 coins if there comes easy bet with new day. Also save money for Nya.

Thief - Nya Stark

The little character appearing sometimes under the tree near academy is thief that can get a gemstone for you. Use her as much as possible. Choice of quest level is yours. I personally keep asking her for silver-gold tier theft, because I use those gems most. Try to figure out which stones you are using most, and then always have saved money. You never know, when there will be an opportunity, to use Nya's skills. But she will come eventually and it happens sooner than later.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:30 pm

Chests

Once in a while You will get a chest as a gift for satisfying customer. There are common chests and great chests from every customer except Solitary Adventurer. He is granting access to legendary chest containing 5 items!
Remember to always keep your customers satisfied, to receive chests from them. And help Adventurer to stay alive to get a treasure, he's fighting his way to.

I believe that weapon with 100 value of particular stat will be enough to help him to 8 level of quest. I'll take notes from next few quests and will check how much his opponents damages him, how many opponents of any type is appearing on his journeys.

Another case needing research is exact difference between simple and great chests. Since there is possibility to use spare wisdom stones to get chests from Master Korrek at the Academy, it is worth to take under consideration if great chest is worth two additional stones.

Customer satisfaction
It's multiplier of gained points and experience. When satisfaction is full, values are doubled. Try not to loose it, and to keep it at maximum all the time.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:33 pm

That's it for now.
If You have any suggestions or want to share some data that can help with conclusions, feel free to post it :)
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby Aleksandra » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:43 pm

Night comes in 101-st move in winter, 201-st move in Fall and Spring and 301-st move in Summer.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby lucek_86 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:01 pm

Thanks :)
I have never counted that. Very useful when making legendary weapons with day/night requirement. Great Idea.
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Re: Earning money in PF2

Postby Amokay » Sun May 10, 2015 1:00 pm

Best way to make money, have a relatively clean board by nightfall and leave the dude that takes anything for last, make a 6x weapons combo from all crystal, places 4 good gems in the most efficient places. You should now have 6 crystal items with good enchantments, decent gems count all worth about 1.2k gold each. Repeat until bored. Or drink one black potion, the one that gives all iron in the ore pistol for the day, make the same combo with netherium, a 14 gem, decent enchant netherium item is worth 4k, 6 of them somewhat more than that. I've never went for the netherium combo but I've done the crystal one several times.
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